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It has been noticed by some(read: many) that once Freya passes the H cup, the design and construction of the bras take a turn for the worst. Braless in Brasil has requested a round up of the Freya bras I have that detail the wide wires, wide gores, and not enough depth(which goes hand-in-hand with the wide wires.)
As you can see from the two tables details the Freya bras I have come upon in a 30J, the width of the wires is excessive, far wider than most people would need with an approximate 30″ frame. As well as the wire length being quite long, meaning that it ends up far in the arm. I have tried the 30J Carys both when I was too small for it and too large, so it’s not a cup size issue as cups only seem to get wider as they get larger and I had the problem both instances, evident in the photos below.
I have debated with myself many a times on whether or not I’m considered close set. With a bra on and my breasts in the proper upright position, there is a much smaller gap between them than without a bra. But when braless and left to their natural state, it’s not surprising that the space between my breasts is so much more evident. the gore has no place to go between my breasts and that isn’t due to it being too small. There is simply not enough room for it to lay against my sternum and there’s nothing a size change would help.
And now in regards to the wide as fuck wires. My ribcage fluctuates between 29-30″. With a circumference of that, a 7-8 inch wire takes up a lot of space on my body. I dont’ have narrow roots, but I can wear narrow wires(still wondering how that works, by the way.) In the following photos, you can see how 7-8″ wires work on a 30″ ribcage.
So..even with my wide roots, my breasts don’t reach back to my breasts. There’s just no physical way that’s possible, regardless of tissue migration or not. And of course, with wires that wide, my breast tissue is being brought forward and held there with wires that are meant to secure the breast tissue in the cups. All the room means that the cups could be far smaller than I think because the tissue isn’t where it’s supposed to be.
This is just a small post on the wide wires and what effects they have and why Freya makes it hard to wear if you’re J+. This isn’t the only post I will have on the matter. I have gathered data that will also support this coming up shortly after this one, labelled Part Two.
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I have such issues. Almost all bras poke me on the rib cage since they are too wide. I am about a 32hh at the moment. It is terrible. My fitting problems have become so much worse after losing ~40 pounds with no change in volume. :(. I went from 36g to my current size.
I’ve found Freya a no-go for me after about FF. From that point on, wires are too soft to tack. In part that’s because I do have close-set breasts (when I’m not wearing a bra I measure about 1 cm between them; most gores are 1.8 cm at best) but other brands with similarly wide gores manage to find the space to settle as my breasts are soft enough to get out of the way.
So there’s another construction problem at H+? It really seems like they don’t have the mid- to large end of the full bust market worked out.
As for wearing narrow wires and having a wider root, I’m wondering if maybe you have the same shape that I have. I’ve found that I widen as I approach my armpits, whereas I’m fairly narrow lower down. Instead of a U shape, I start out like a champagne glass, and as I near the armpits I suddenly look more like a martini glass in slope. Short narrow wires work, and so do wide tall ones.
I’ve noticed these problems on Bratabase, it really is horrible. The image of the Freya Active underwired in my head never disappears and I thought “wow, now that Freya releases it up to a K-cup, many more women will be able to exercise in such increased comfort!”, boy was I wrong… In effect, the cup is like 3-4 sizes “too small” anyway for anyone who truly needs a K-cup, it’s dispersed so widely that the bust is not contained the way it’s supposed to be anyway. I find that the wires are very wide on the lower end of the cup scale as well (have ordered it in 28FF and below), add that into the equation of poorly scaled cups on the higher end… Horribly wide underwires. I haven’t seen anyone so far that has actually looked contained in the way the bra is intended to fit in a K-cup (or below for that matter, Freya ought to make the underwires narrower).
I wonder if you have the same issue I do with wires. I don’t consider myself to have narrow roots,. they take up all my chest and then some! But really… I do. I measure a comfortable 32-33 snug, and mostly wear 32 bands depending on the stretch. But I have a deeper chest and narrower back. I think that can make the wider wires really a problem,
And yeah, I can’t wear Freya in the 32H I need it in. I wear a 32GG in one, but the cups are patently too small after a few minutes; they slide down and cut in on top and are super pointy. The H cup ostensibly fits me… but it tilts away from my chest like crazy.
My 32H ivy has a wire width of 6.5. The Lyla is slightly wider in the same size. My contrast, my 32GG Ellie (whose wires are perfect when they stretch when it’s on) measures 6.